Monday, February 17, 2025

News: New flats plan would see Rotherham pub pulled down

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It could be last orders at a prominent matchday pub in Rotherham town centre if plans for a new six storey block of flats are approved.

Close to Forge Island and the New York Stadium, the area around Domine Lane, Main Street and Market Street has been successfully regenerated with high quaity residential and mixed use developments. Now a bar at the back of the old Post Office, once used to store the vehicles for the workers, could be flattened and replaced by a new-build block of flats.

The Post Office building has itself been converted into residential use.

Currently The Forge (Magoo's bar), the pub operation has been made smaller over the years after consent was granted to create five apartments in the Loading Bay / Post office building. Previously The Exchange, and formerly Yates Wine Lodge, it is where Mark McGrail, owner of SME Environmental Holdings, saved the vacant building and created the 1915 Bar & Bistro in 2016.

The latest application from McGrail and SME, states that the leisure operations have "struggled to survive" and a proposed apartment building is being put forward, so that "a more cohesive community living environment will be created in this area of the town."

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At six storeys, the design for "Forge Apartments" from Just Architecture is for a "relatively condense apartment scheme" that aims to complement the existing buildings and create 16 luxury apartments, including two duplex apartments and two penthouse apartments.

Facing brickwork is proposed to be used, punched through with tall windows for the apartments in order to maximise the natural daylight and maximise views. Apartments will have a balcony / terrace area.

The development can be considered as sustainable in transport terms due to the town centre location so no parking is proposed. A scheme of sound insulation including glazing and Mechanical Ventilation with Heat Recovery (MVHR) is also proposed.

A viability assessment shows how current build costs would exceed a total gross development value so no affordable housing provision is included.

The plans conclude: "The proposed building will nestle neatly into the corner of Market Street and Domine Lane surrounded by buildings of a similar size, scale and use class. With the introduction of this new building the existing public house will be removed for the betterment of the area. A noisy bar will be demolished in favour of a luxury apartment facility which is more in keeping with the buildings that create this residential corner of the town.

"With some careful design decisions the building has been changed to make interesting interior spaces creating city centre living areas which will be attractive to young professionals many of which now have an increased focus on working from home.

"The adaptation of the existing building, which has struggled to survive over its recent iterations will help to form a more cohesive community in keeping with the councils recent vision and Master Plan for the town centre. Adjacent and surrounding areas are all earmarked for residential development and this proposal would sit well with these proposed future developments and the adjacent approved scheme."

Images: Google Maps / Just Architecture

33 comments:

Anonymous,  February 17, 2025 at 6:10 PM  

Is 6 storeys enough to keep Captain High Rise happy?

Anonymous,  February 17, 2025 at 6:38 PM  

And another pub bites the dust,I'm afraid Rotherham will never get it's night time economy booming again,can only dream of a bustling town centre full of bars and restaurants the like of Barnsley.Wrong council wrong strategy.

Anonymous,  February 17, 2025 at 6:53 PM  

I note the planned block on lane at the side of this proposed development as yet to even start?

Mr me February 17, 2025 at 11:41 PM  

Don't know about him,but it's ak no from me,should be 10storey ,to maximise land availability in town centre and increase council tax revenue...still 6 storey is a start, saying that good possibility planners will turn it down due to heights and usual,view of minster obscured from some angle no one ever views it from.

Anonymous,  February 18, 2025 at 10:25 AM  

Probably going to be the best use for the space now as it has clearly sunk in to Mr McGrail's business mind that trying to operate a successful leisure business directly next to an enormous white elephant is never going to work.

Anonymous,  February 18, 2025 at 3:58 PM  

In a little over ten years it has been
The Exchange
1915 Bistro
Loading Bay
Walsh's Irish bar
Magoo's
The Forge
Maybe its time to give up, plus there are plenty of other vacant buildings if someone wants to give it another go.

Anonymous,  February 18, 2025 at 4:08 PM  

Don't think illegal immigrants will like it if there's no gardens

Anonymous,  February 18, 2025 at 4:54 PM  

If the first thing an article around the development of luxury apartments brings to mind is "illegal immigrants" then I think you have a problem.

Rothguy February 18, 2025 at 5:42 PM  

Yep I go in the place when it's open and in the past in it's many iterations but many didn't sadly.

Plenty of people say they want more pubs, but they don't use them.

Anonymous,  February 18, 2025 at 6:13 PM  

What a moronic post!

Anonymous,  February 18, 2025 at 6:25 PM  

But we also have a problem having to read casual racist comments

Anonymous,  February 18, 2025 at 6:38 PM  

Don't know about illegal immigrants,but got to say as someone who is in Rotherham town centre quite regular,that majority of people I see coming out of properties aren't of a Anglo Saxon /Celtic heritage,be them legal.or not,so I do get the point.

Jez February 18, 2025 at 11:34 PM  

And does it concern you that town centre properties are occupied by people you have identified as lacking Anglo Saxon/ Celtic heritage?

Anonymous,  February 19, 2025 at 7:31 AM  

Which properties would they be? I live at Keppel Wharf and most of my neighbours are British - not that that matters. All that matters is that they are well behaved. Or do you have another agenda?

Anonymous,  February 19, 2025 at 10:22 AM  

Could you maybe suggest to whoever manages the building to give the outside a wash, the whole thing looks filthy.

Anonymous,  February 19, 2025 at 11:06 AM  

Maybe they think that's all non Anglo Saxons deserve.

Anonymous,  February 19, 2025 at 11:34 AM  

The point that you get being what exactly?

Anonymous,  February 20, 2025 at 8:09 AM  

Oh if only Rothbiz posts were subject to a fact check!

Anonymous,  February 20, 2025 at 6:57 PM  

As usual, when such outrageous claims are challenged, the silence is deafening.

Anonymous,  February 20, 2025 at 10:19 PM  

Well yesterday I saw a guy coming out of a town centre apartment. He had a shaved head, was covered in tattoos and drinking from a can of lager. Presumably he was one of the Anglo Saxons so much admired by one poster.

Anonymous,  February 21, 2025 at 9:00 AM  

Of course you did.

Anonymous,  February 21, 2025 at 9:24 AM  

He was probably on his way to the reading room in the County.

Anonymous,  February 22, 2025 at 11:34 AM  

Forgot to mention he had a banned dog breed, a union flag, sleeveless vest and Village People moustache

Anonymous,  February 22, 2025 at 1:22 PM  

Seen him about.

Anonymous,  February 24, 2025 at 5:29 AM  

Different story in the ones on Sheffield road and Westgate,my daughter moved in (for a short while)we soon got her back home,not a safe place for a young girls!

Anonymous,  February 24, 2025 at 5:33 AM  

Yeah and his grandfather probably fought for his right to do that,like many local people who had previous generations who fought for there country.....what have people arriving on dingies done to earn there rights???

Anonymous,  February 24, 2025 at 5:34 AM  

What's wrong with that,anti white are we....®©®©

Anonymous,  February 24, 2025 at 7:29 AM  

Translation please.

Anonymous,  February 24, 2025 at 7:31 AM  

Learnt to speak English?

Anonymous,  February 24, 2025 at 9:52 AM  

If we are talking about the same person, his grandfather was a conscientious objector.

Jez February 24, 2025 at 10:22 AM  

Crossing the notoriously dangerous waterway which is the English Channel in flimsy dinghies equires a degree of desperation and courage which few of us can imagine and even fewer would be prepared to undertake

Anonymous,  February 25, 2025 at 4:55 PM  

You note incorrectly.

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