News: Which services could stop at Rotherham Gateway Station?
Discussions continue with train operators over which services could stop at the potential new mainline station in Rotherham that is aiming to open in 2030.
The Rotherham Gateway Station project, featured by Rothbiz earlier this month, involves a new integrated station on the mainline and a tram-train stop on land at Forge Way, Parkgate.
Discussing the project at a recent council meeting, Simon Moss, Assistant Director, Planning, Regeneration and Transport at Rotherham Council, said: "Everyday we have got mainline train services that travel through the borough on the way to Leeds, York, Birmingham, London, Cleethorpes, and none of those trains stop in Rotherham.
"Obviously we have got Rotherham Central, which is a real asset, on a branch line with local trains that stop twice an hour. Despite the rail infrastructure that we've got, rail connectivity is really quite poor. So Rotherham Gateway will be a big step change in the connectivity to regional and national destinations. That wider connectivity will come together with local access with a new tram train stop, bus services and other options that need to integrate into a proposal such as this.
"We have been in touch with the various rail operators, they've got a range of different approaches, and different positions, and different considerations."
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The aim is to increase the range of direct destinations and for a 30 minute journey time reduction to Leeds, York and Birmingham.
Lucy Mitchell, Major Project Officer at Rotherham Council, added: "We've invited a number of operators to join the steering group with Northern being the main target as it is likely that they would be the station facility owner. They are fundamental to any conversations that we have about what that station building might look like and how they want to operate it.
"We've also had some dialogue with TransPennine Express as a target operator for a service that we would like to see stopping at the station and similarly with CrossCountry, we've had dialogue with them. Northern have been quite heavily involved - coming to the steering group - and we've asked them to sit on the board as well.
"Operators are quite straightforward about what they would accept and wouldn't accept, which we would rather try and understand at this stage, and plan for."
Northern operates the most services in the area with potential new direct links to the nearby cities of Sheffield, Doncaster, Wakefield and Leeds. TransPennine Express operate between Liverpool and Cleethorpes on the mainline that goes through the Rotherham site with a service that also stops at Manchester and Sheffield. CrossCountry's Plymouth – Edinburgh Waverley and Reading – Newcastle services, that take in cities such as Birmingham and York, are also in the conversation.
Mitchell added: "At the moment there are two services that we can confidently accommodate so we could get better journey times to Leeds and better journey times to Doncaster. Journey times to Sheffield would marginally improve, because they are so close on the rail network.
"We are working with DfT [Department for Transport] and Network Rail to look at other services that offer up wider connectivity. So the conversations with TransPennine Express, that's about trying to get that service to potentially stop at this station so that you could get directly through to Manchester.
"Similarly, conversations about CrossCountry services, if we can get a stop at the station here you are on a direct connection to Birmingham, to York, wherever, that is the thing that significantly enhances the opportunity for Rotherham people and Rotherham businesses.
"It's a lot of work to go to secure those services and get them stopping here but that is the journey that we are on and where we'd like to get to."
Images: Northern
The Rotherham Gateway Station project, featured by Rothbiz earlier this month, involves a new integrated station on the mainline and a tram-train stop on land at Forge Way, Parkgate.
Discussing the project at a recent council meeting, Simon Moss, Assistant Director, Planning, Regeneration and Transport at Rotherham Council, said: "Everyday we have got mainline train services that travel through the borough on the way to Leeds, York, Birmingham, London, Cleethorpes, and none of those trains stop in Rotherham.
"Obviously we have got Rotherham Central, which is a real asset, on a branch line with local trains that stop twice an hour. Despite the rail infrastructure that we've got, rail connectivity is really quite poor. So Rotherham Gateway will be a big step change in the connectivity to regional and national destinations. That wider connectivity will come together with local access with a new tram train stop, bus services and other options that need to integrate into a proposal such as this.
"We have been in touch with the various rail operators, they've got a range of different approaches, and different positions, and different considerations."
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The aim is to increase the range of direct destinations and for a 30 minute journey time reduction to Leeds, York and Birmingham.
Lucy Mitchell, Major Project Officer at Rotherham Council, added: "We've invited a number of operators to join the steering group with Northern being the main target as it is likely that they would be the station facility owner. They are fundamental to any conversations that we have about what that station building might look like and how they want to operate it.
"We've also had some dialogue with TransPennine Express as a target operator for a service that we would like to see stopping at the station and similarly with CrossCountry, we've had dialogue with them. Northern have been quite heavily involved - coming to the steering group - and we've asked them to sit on the board as well.
"Operators are quite straightforward about what they would accept and wouldn't accept, which we would rather try and understand at this stage, and plan for."
Northern operates the most services in the area with potential new direct links to the nearby cities of Sheffield, Doncaster, Wakefield and Leeds. TransPennine Express operate between Liverpool and Cleethorpes on the mainline that goes through the Rotherham site with a service that also stops at Manchester and Sheffield. CrossCountry's Plymouth – Edinburgh Waverley and Reading – Newcastle services, that take in cities such as Birmingham and York, are also in the conversation.
Mitchell added: "At the moment there are two services that we can confidently accommodate so we could get better journey times to Leeds and better journey times to Doncaster. Journey times to Sheffield would marginally improve, because they are so close on the rail network.
"We are working with DfT [Department for Transport] and Network Rail to look at other services that offer up wider connectivity. So the conversations with TransPennine Express, that's about trying to get that service to potentially stop at this station so that you could get directly through to Manchester.
"Similarly, conversations about CrossCountry services, if we can get a stop at the station here you are on a direct connection to Birmingham, to York, wherever, that is the thing that significantly enhances the opportunity for Rotherham people and Rotherham businesses.
"It's a lot of work to go to secure those services and get them stopping here but that is the journey that we are on and where we'd like to get to."
Images: Northern
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If the only services that could be guaranteed would be “better journey times” to Leeds and Doncaster then the concept is uneconomical and should be shelved. A new station would need both TransPennine Express and CrossCountry services to stop there otherwise it would be a white elephant. In addition, Rotherham Central is neither “a real asset” nor “on a branch line”…
Extend platforms at Rotherham central and dual the Holmes cord, will surely be cheaper,and you've got a town centre station.
There was a study done ten years a go that said that dualling the Holmes Chord would cost £32m and getting the mainline to service Rotherham Central would cost £161m.
https://www.rothbiz.co.uk/2015/10/news-5512-new-station-for-rotherham.html
Despite the ‘flood barrier’ and other works Rotherham Central still floods. It’s a waste of space to be frank.
Still believe that theres better sites for a new station closer to town centre, maybe the primrose hill area.
Flood barriers don't stop water table rising,the flooding at central station is water just rising up through ground,would never stop it .
So no trains to London then?
The second Monday in every other month via Goole.
Ok, thanks for that. The point is the station is unusable when it floods.
Is it on the Snow piercer route?
@Tom, out of interest did the study explore the re-opening of the old Masbro station?
The platforms, building and signalling are already in place there, surely wouldn't it make more sense to re-open that? It might do a bit of good in regenerating that part of town too!
More to come on that next week!
More chance of us getting Platform 9 3/4.
The station building at Masbrough is now used for multi occupancy housing.
A comment was made that Masbro’ couldn’t be used because it’s on a curve and not permissible by current rules… strange when Rotherham Central floods when it rains heavy. This is within the rules then?
There’s no mention (unless I missed it) of an Open access operater using the new station!
They are ngotiating with the occupants in the hope that they will staff the station in their spare time
Trouble with masborough,is that area is a rundown,druggie ghetto,and there's no space around there for business developments and possible housing like the site at park gate,and theres no possibility of tram train links at masborough either.
Where’s this Masborough (sic) that’s a ‘…rundown, druggie ghetto…’. Certainly not the Masbrough I know…
So, a bit like King's Cross then?
But a station could regenerate the area, and as for no space for development, there’s a huge empty space on the old bus depot site.
Mr Me you are a fantasist worthy of a place in Trump's cabinet.
I take it you haven’t been to Kings Cross recently.
Well a lot of them are little kids, they’d probably be middle aged by the time it opened.
But Trump speaks better English
Nor me.
I think he means Mosborough.
Is that true that people are living in the old station building?
Three times a week as a matter of fact.
Kings Cross is a rundown Masbrough.
Spoken like someone who has never been to Kings Cross.
So where in Masbrough are buildings like Gasholders, Coal drops yard and Google HQ?
I’ve seen women hanging out washing on a line in the car park, and a number of young children playing in the car park. It would appear there are at least a couple of families.
Spoken like someone who doesn't recognise irony
I recognise irony, there just wasn't any on show.
Just behind the care home
Ah, you're American...
Spoken like Donald Trump
Spoken like somebody who doesn't actually know what irony means.
Why not explain what irony means to you old bean, rather than keep suggesting that you are alone in understanding the concept.
I'll give you a clue. The Forth Rail Bridge is completely irony.
That's ironic.
The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
It might have been the first thing, but it certainly wasn't the last two, which made it a bit of a waste of everyones time.
It's made of steel.
I rest my case...
Steel, masonry,concrete and granite to be accurate
Any old irony
Any old irony
Any any old......
Whatever, it's still iconic
You were asked what irony means to you, not what it means to the Oxford English Dictionary.
And the dictionary definition is what it means to me, because that was it is. It wouldn't be irony if I thought it meant something else.
Sad that you have to consult a dictionary before explaining yourself.
I think the Third Rail Bridge was entirely wood.
A bit sad that you care so much.
You're thinking of the first Ironbridge which was entirely made of wood.
I think an earlier poster hit the nail on the head. You ARE still at school.
That comment was aimed at a completely different person.
Not forgetting No More Nails
Lovely medium wood.
Gosh, that's right. Balsa wasn't it?
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